mormons are hot. 

serves them right, fuckers 

Aside from the 2 1/2 minute fireside rant, pretty funny stuff. 

classic... I want to be his friend 

In all fairness, the Mornons have a right to be annoyed.
In their eyes, everyone they convert is someone saved from the fiery pit of Hell.
However, in an atheist's eyes, there is no Hell to be saved from, so evangelism has no point except to avoid being bothered. 

I love this!

...I'm looking at you, Mormons. 

aww man that intro is the shit!

goes and listens to yaz 

bigbro79 said:

Aside from ESPECIALLY the 2 1/2 minute fireside rant, pretty funny stuff.

Brilliant 

In their eyes, everyone they convert is someone saved from the fiery pit of Hell

In an athiests eyes, everyone he converts is someone saved from a lifetime of sunday mornings. 

lifetime of sunday mornings.

ahem, a lifetime of boring sunday mornings 

Fair dinkum! 

mormons are hot.

Yeah, every mormon chick I've ever seen as been smokin hot. 

My new hero!!! 

that was amazing. 

lol, sad thing is he was pushier than any Mormon I've ever met.

Every Mormon I've met has been nothing but friendly and polite, and refrains heavily from pushing anything. If you say no thanks they move on.

Reason is they believe they can convert you after you die so what does it matter if they get you while you're living.

lol 

You know, whether you're mormon or not, one thing you have to admit is that it takes a whole lot of courage for those kids (elders are almost always young males just out of high school) to go up to the houses of strangers and confront them with something they know will probably not be well received. And they do it because they feel that they're doing right, because they are morally convicted to do so, not because they're paid, or because they want attention or because they think they have to.

I have had a few elders come to my door, and I have politely informed them that I believe differently than they do, but that I respect what they are doing. You should see the look on their faces when someone rejects them but in an appropriate way.

If you're mean to the people who are trying to reach out to you, I hope that one day you need someone, and there's no one there for you. 

In an athiests eyes, everyone he converts is someone saved from a lifetime of boring sunday mornings.

That's not exactly on the same scale with an eternity of suffering. 

stile said:

That's not exactly on the same scale with an eternity of suffering.

And neither is working in a soup kitchen for the homeless. So should we just stop, or what? 

One time a couple of Mormons came to our front door while we were eating breakfast. My dad is one of the types that does not like when people interrupt meals, regardless of what the situation is. So he gets up to answer the door. I may have been 14 at the time, but this is the dialogue I remember:

Mormons: "Hello, we were wondering if you'd like to bring Jesus into your home!"
Dad: "What, do you have him tied up in your trunk or something?"

I think they left pretty quickly. 

HA! This is a) long overdue and b) much too infrequent 

And neither is working in a soup kitchen for the homeless. So should we just stop, or what?

What does that have to do with...anything...? 

No worries mate. The fact that he quoted "XTC" means he is damned to hell already. 

If you're mean to the people who are trying to reach out to you, I hope that one day you need someone, and there's no one there for you

Yeah, just like the guy who closed the door on their face. 

stile said:

What does that have to do with...anything...?

You claim that the athiest mission to save people from a lifetime of boring Sundays is worth less than saving someone from eternal damnation, and therefore less acceptable, worthy of effort, or honourable. I say that following your model, no small works would ever get done. 

silly mormons,
they should be spending their time and energy doing charity work.
they shouldn't let the franciscans get all the glory. 

You claim that the athiest mission to save people from a lifetime of boring Sundays is worth less than saving someone from eternal damnation, and therefore less acceptable, worthy of effort, or honourable.

You misunderstand my implication completely. 

Mormons....Yeah, so holier than thou bastards. Here's a story, I used to work at a 20/20 video , this one older guy would always come in on shipment day and rent up to like 4 Porno tapes at a time Later on I meet him again at a friends house that was a mormon. Turns out he's an elder...I can tell he recognized me from the oh shit look he had in his eyes when he saw me. Same friend had a elder that needed his laptop repaired becuase it was running like shit, of course it was full of malware from porn sites...Go sell crazy somewhere else. 

Don't quote good movies for bad reasons. 

well done, and his little rant was AWESOME! 

You misunderstand my implication completely.

Isn't that the status-quo for a wholesome fazed discussion?

Is there a hyphen in status-quo? I'm way too lazy to open up another browser right now. 

Is there a hyphen in status-quo?

No, but if you really want to be proper, you might italicize it. 

Every Mormon I've met has been nothing but friendly and polite, and refrains heavily from pushing anything. If you say no thanks they move on.

Man, I don't know where you live, but I want to move there. Our local mormons started walking into my apartment as they "asked" if they could come in and for a moment I thought I'd have to restrain them physically to keep them out. Then I repeatedly insisted that I wasn't interested and they were wasting their time, but they persisted for a good 10-15 minutes. 

^^^

Except for the ones I'm friends with, most of the mormons I've met have been pushy, holier than thou, and generally not very nice people. 

Psydewayz said:

it takes a whole lot of courage for those kids (elders are almost always young males just out of high school) to go up to the houses of strangers and confront them with something they know will probably not be well received

Who cares wtf they think they're doing. That's selfish; they should think of the people they disturb on their day off from the dredgery of work and why they aren't well recieved.

If they want to save people from eternal burning, they should preach to homeless people while they feed them, I'm sure they'd put up with that drivel in exchange for a warm meal. 

they should preach to homeless people while they feed them

YEAH! That's how the Catholics do it! 

It doesn't take courage, it takes their mormon parents pushing them to do it

I worked with a whole lot of mormons and while they are generally nice people they do have some rather skewed views, especially when any one of them who is in a position of power within the community is also in a position of power at a job. 

brings equus to mind

Indeed, they just did that show at my college. Freaky. 

stile said:

In all fairness, the Mornons have a right to be annoyed.
In their eyes, everyone they convert is someone saved from the fiery pit of Hell.
However, in an atheist's eyes, there is no Hell to be saved from, so evangelism has no point except to avoid being bothered.

The Mormons has just as much a valid right to be offended as an atheist, Buddhist, Mulism, or anyone else. The religious types and their tunnel vision really grinds my gears. In my college days, I was somehow flagged by the Christian Club. They didn't just come up and preach to me, they would actually harass me.. relentlessly. It got to the point where the head of the radio dept actually had to come outside and tell them they were interrupting the radio show going on and not to harass me anymore. He was a bit of an atheist or something himself.

I was raised Mormon, I'm somewhere else now. I think I've gained enough insight and wisdom at this point to come to terms with the LDS church. There are aspects of it which I respect and other aspects that I do not.

Funny video. But the intro was way over-done. 

i love mormons :/ 

I just can't believe anyone buys the whole story that the LDS cult is based on. The bible/christianity fairy tales are wacky and fake enough, but the LDS thing reads like a bad comedy. Unreal.
They gotta recruit people because people=money. 

Hehehe, man i wish i had thought of that stunt sooner,
no offense to any religion but like the guy said, in a bit different manner, fuck off with the pushin !
believe what you want where you want, just no pushy-pushy hymny hymny ! 

baba give item said:

silly mormons,
they should be spending their time and energy doing charity work.
they shouldn't let the franciscans get all the glory.

As I recall growing up, I did a lot of charity work with my church group. Most of it was within the church, but it wasn't completely selfish. The church runs an organization called Deseret Industries who owns vast amounts of land which is used for raising cattle, crops and such to provide food for low income members of the church. When my dad passed away, the church paid one or two of my mom's house payments because she couldn't make ends meet. When we sold the house, they guided my family through, every step of the way.
Utah's state symbol is a beehive. It's there for a reason. Much of the church's beliefs and action can be related to a beehive. One huge family, working together to obtain a key goal, loyal to each other no matter what. 

I just can't believe anyone buys the whole story that the LDS cult is based on. The bible/christianity fairy tales are wacky and fake enough, but the LDS thing reads like a bad comedy. Unreal.
They gotta recruit people because people=money.

Did anyone see the South Park episode about John Smith?
Hilarious! "Dum dum dum dum" 

kryptx said:

Man, I don't know where you live, but I want to move there. Our local mormons started walking into my apartment as they "asked" if they could come in and for a moment I thought I'd have to restrain them physically to keep them out. Then I repeatedly insisted that I wasn't interested and they were wasting their time, but they persisted for a good 10-15 minutes.

I think you should have just let them in and then gotten naked and sat there playing with yourself while talking to them about whatever they wanted to talk to you about. Would've been good times. 

I think you should have just let them in and then gotten naked and sat there playing with yourself while talking to them about whatever they wanted to talk to you about. Would've been good times.

Dad? 

emipou said:

As I recall growing up, I did a lot of charity work with my church group. Most of it was within the church, but it wasn't completely selfish. The church runs an organization called Deseret Industries who owns vast amounts of land which is used for raising cattle, crops and such to provide food for low income members of the church. When my dad passed away, the church paid one or two of my mom's house payments because she couldn't make ends meet. When we sold the house, they guided my family through, every step of the way.

Okay. 

'John Safran VS God' show. Watch it. And that means YOU! 

Cricket stompers! 

Psydewayz said:

You know, whether you're mormon or not, one thing you have to admit is that it takes a whole lot of courage for those kids (elders are almost always young males just out of high school) to go up to the houses of strangers and confront them with something they know will probably not be well received. And they do it because they feel that they're doing right, because they are morally convicted to do so, not because they're paid, or because they want attention or because they think they have to.

Courage and religion are mutually exclusive. If you really believe that your good works or faith will be rewarded with admission to heaven and everlasting happiness, then it's not exactly a hard decision to make. Any mortal pain or negative consequence is insignificant compared to an eternal fate.

By example...I won't go into whether or not Bill Maher is a moron in general, but his specific rant that religious terrorists are courageous is laughable. If you really, truly believe that the instant you vaporize yourself and 3000 others, you will be rewarded with 72 virgins by Allah, Jesus, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, then it's either a selfish act, or an act coerced by the prospect of your alternative fate.

Personal faith is fine if it doesn't consume your entire world view. But a world with absolute faith is a world without courage and a world without personal responsibility. Here in the United States, I would be scared to death if certain elements of the Democratic party came into unchecked power; but I would be equally despondent if certain elements of the Republican party seized control. 

I have a lot of time, so when the Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses used to come I'd advocate completely random religions or worldviews back at them. One day it'd be Buddhism, then the next Atheism, then Wicca, then Strong Agnosticism, and so on and so forth. I think I managed to get a few of them to reevaluate their beliefs towards the one I was espousing at the time, because they stopped coming eventually. Possibly also because they realized I was making a point that you can make a decent and impassioned argument for any faith whatsoever and it all means the exact same - nothing. You're merely debating the unproven and unprovable, so it is all a waste of time that could be spent actually doing positive works.

(I'm a Weak Agnostic. Don't know, don't care. Compare to Strong Agnostics, who think no one CAN know.)