From: swizzlestick should not be used if you are nursing, pregnant, or could become pregnant
 
Date: 11/18/08 @ 11:11 PM
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Left 4 Dead is out and a bunch of Fazers are playing, so let's get this shit started.

If you want to get some games going, join the Fazed Steam Group, add some Fazers as friends and have some fun.

Go a head and post any L4D-related links, news and updates in here. 
From: volt does not aim with sticks
 
Date: 11/18/08 @ 11:19 PM
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I didn't buy because:
1. I love TF2 too much to play something else
2. $45-50 is too much money for me to spend on a video game right now
3. Not a fan of zombie apocalypse themed material
4. Not enough time for me to invest in another game

I do feel a bit left out, though. 
From: volt does not aim with sticks
 
Date: 11/18/08 @ 11:20 PM
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Does anyone want to take part in a Left 4 Dead 4-pack purchase?

Instead of a single copy at $50, you can buy 4 for $150 which boils down to about $37.50 each. 
From: Mak a    LL Eli is fresher than Binaca
 
Date: 11/18/08 @ 11:21 PM
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That was a quick mind change. 
From: Mak a    LL Eli is fresher than Binaca
 
Date: 11/18/08 @ 11:21 PM
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Also, I'd love to, but I'm broke. 
From: satchel you'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel
 
Date: 11/18/08 @ 11:26 PM
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already have a copy, and its awesome 
From: blitz d makes cynicism an art form
 
Date: 11/18/08 @ 11:35 PM
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For clarification is thread only for PC L4D or 360 as well? 
From: muppet
 
Date: 11/18/08 @ 11:37 PM
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is there a story, or is it mainly for multiplayer?

also, posting system requirements:

Minimum:
Supported OS: Microsoft Windows XP / Vista / Vista64
Processor: Pentium 4 3.0GHz
Memory: 1 GB
Graphics: 128 MB, Shader model 2.0, ATI 9600, NVidia 6600 or better
Hard Drive: At least 7.5 GB of free space
Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c compatible sound card

Recommended:
Supported OS: Microsoft Windows XP / Vista / Vista64
Processor: Intel core 2 duo 2.4GHz
Memory: 1 GB
Graphics: Shader model 3.0, NVidia 7600, ATI X1600 or better
 
From: Mak a    LL Eli is fresher than Binaca
 
Date: 11/18/08 @ 11:38 PM
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Mainly for multiplayer, but also single player. 
From: swizzlestick should not be used if you are nursing, pregnant, or could become pregnant
 
Date: 11/18/08 @ 11:41 PM
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blitzd said:

For clarification is thread only for PC L4D or 360 as well?
Well, that should only matter if you're seeing if somebody wants to play. If you want to play with somebody, make sure to tell them what platform you're on. 
From: Drunken Zamboni
 
Date: 11/18/08 @ 11:47 PM
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I had a ton of fun playing tonight with some decent folks. I liked that there was no auto-balance after 2 people on the other team ragequit -- we got to play as a team for the whole level/story. I typically choose the auto shotty for my primary weapon when I can; I like to get up close and personal with the zombies.

As infected, I mostly got stuck as a hunter or a smoker, and I think I spent more time dead than alive (no pun intended). I am looking forward to learning how to better play as infected. It seems like ambushes will work best. Have your boomer puke on as many as possible to get the horde involved and then the rest can move in and pick survivors off while they are fighting the horde.

In all, very fun. I am excited to play it with some of you guys. Right now I am playing as 'FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF' in the Fazed Steam group. 
From: RandallFlagg wants to go to the party. The party in your tummy.
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 12:11 AM
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Does anyone want to take part in a Left 4 Dead 4-pack purchase?


I'm in, how do you want to go about this? 
From: b stabby frets less
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 12:28 AM
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volt said:

I didn't buy because:
1. I love TF2 too much to play something else
2. $45-50 is too much money for me to spend on a video game right now
3. Not a fan of zombie apocalypse themed material
4. Not enough time for me to invest in another game

I do feel a bit left out, though.


not

love

zombies?

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj11/bstabby/Confused_dog.jpg 
From: aaron
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 1:01 AM
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not

love

zombies?


http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9785/174906rkellywtfio8kt2.gif

Anyway, yeah, I joined the Fazed group, SimuAaron 
From: kagemusha would play SEGA with Harrison Ford
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 1:06 AM
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I'm tempted to pick this up once I beat Fallout 3 on an evil playthrough. 
From: Drunken Zamboni
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 1:13 AM
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aaron said:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9785/174906rkellywtfio8kt2.gif

Anyway, yeah, I joined the Fazed group, SimuAaron


Oh Lawd, is dat sum trapt in the closet? 
From: airdrummer wants his MILF and cookies
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 2:13 AM
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volt said:

I didn't buy because:
1. I love TF2 too much to play something else
2. $45-50 is too much money for me to spend on a video game right now
3. Not a fan of zombie apocalypse themed material
4. Not enough time for me to invest in another game

I do feel a bit left out, though.


so many things wrong with this.
1. Pussy.
2.Unemployed
3...mmm...ok...understood.
4. so...wtf is taking up so much time, you single pussy, unemployed person I understand...too a point?

then I figured, if you feel left out...its really because of #2.

am i right? 
From: mr_green must insist that you pronounce the underscore
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 2:22 AM
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In this economy do you really think somebody has to be unemployed to be unwilling to throw $50 at a toy? Since say what you want, but that's what games are. 
From: mr_green must insist that you pronounce the underscore
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 2:23 AM
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I do play games by the way, but I also know when to focus on more important things.

This game does look cool, and I plan on getting it... one day. 
From: airdrummer wants his MILF and cookies
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 2:42 AM
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In this economy do you really think somebody has to be unemployed to be unwilling to throw $50 at a toy?


no...it was an empty attempt at being funny, yet you have pointed out my economical inaccuracy in developing a semi-accurate account of an almost non-existent level of research based on an individual whom I do not know, nor will I ever meet to discuss his financial situation. So, yes, my good Sir, I have no indication that the economical status of this young man's bank account, reflects the ability of said person to enjoy such a luxury as a $50 piece of visceral entertainment.

thank you for your support and fuck off. 
From: volt does not aim with sticks
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 2:45 AM
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my reasons include
full time college in mech eng
girlfriend
part time pizza delivery dude (evenings on weekends) 
From: swizzlestick should not be used if you are nursing, pregnant, or could become pregnant
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 2:46 AM
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Is it a sign of mental illness that I totally want to do Zoey?

Something about the red sweatshirt and the dual-wielding pistols... 
From: satchel you'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 7:00 AM
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i had to play as zoey last night. first thing i did was make it clear that i was a dude, and they should keep their minds out of the gutter. gotta focus on the job at hand 
From: SaucyWench garden gnome
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 7:16 AM
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I am about half a step from buying this game right this second

How long is it though?

I am tired of paying good money for games I beat in 5 hours 
From: Drewski is only after one thing
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 7:22 AM
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Huh, quick way of getting out of the apartment: jump onto the airconditioning unit in the alleyway, then onto the boxes. You lose about a quarter of your health, much less than you would probably lose going through the whole apartment. 
From: Major Camel serious mammal
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 8:04 AM
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swizzle s tick said:

Is it a sign of mental illness that I totally want to do Zoey?

Something about the red sweatshirt and the dual-wielding pistols...


She needs some exfoliating face scrub though; she's a bit spotty. 
From: PunkPhoenix can't help feeling like he's due...
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 9:15 AM
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Drewski said:

Huh, quick way of getting out of the apartment: jump onto the airconditioning unit in the alleyway, then onto the boxes. You lose about a quarter of your health, much less than you would probably lose going through the whole apartment.

The fact that this is even an option is one of the things that makes this game so great. 
From: swizzlestick should not be used if you are nursing, pregnant, or could become pregnant
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 9:25 AM
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SaucyWench said:

I am about half a step from buying this game right this second

How long is it though?

I am tired of paying good money for games I beat in 5 hours
While the individual campaigns aren't very long, they have a lot of replay value because of how differently they play out each time you go through them. It's especially good when you're playing with some real people. 
From: volt does not aim with sticks
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 9:25 AM
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I think it might be bugged...
Whenever I tried to jump off I automatically grabbed the ledge and was assisted by the NPC's. 
From: razor is a master baiter
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 9:29 AM
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The fact that this is even an option is one of the things that makes this game so great.

Will the characters controlled by AI do the same? 
From: RandallFlagg wants to go to the party. The party in your tummy.
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 9:31 AM
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Something about the red sweatshirt and the dual-wielding pistols...


She looks an awful lot like Claire Redfield 
From: satchel you'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 11:33 AM
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she's pretty darn attractive. and i have a ponytail obsession, so extra points.

i've got a class to go to tonight, otherwise i'd set up a time to play together 
From: Loreo is a red-blooded American idiot
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 11:51 AM
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swizzle s tick said:

Is it a sign of mental illness that I totally want to do Zoey?

Not unless heterosexuality is a mental illness. And besides, somebody gotta repopulate the Earth.

satchel said:

i had to play as zoey last night.

I play as her every time I can. It's like, if you're going to be inhabiting a make-believe world, why not pick the most incongruous choice? Anything else would be like eating a tuna sandwich while inside the Wonka Chocolate Factory. 
From: aaron
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 12:15 PM
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Loreo said:

Anything else would be like eating a tuna sandwich while inside the Wonka Chocolate Factory.

lol wut

¯\(0_°)/¯ 
From: RandallFlagg wants to go to the party. The party in your tummy.
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 12:28 PM
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Anything else would be like eating a tuna sandwich while inside the Wonka Chocolate Factory


Are you making fun of diabetics?

For Shame. 
From: Loreo is a red-blooded American idiot
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 12:30 PM
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Ok, the defense against the horde on top of Mercy Hospital now ranks with the end of Half-Life 2, the escape from the ship in the beginning of Medal of Honor: Rising Sun, the discovery of the low-gravity secret level in Quake, and the first time I played Goldeneye as one of my favorite FPS moments ever.

Also, I wasn't expecting zombie ass when I bought this. Kudos, Valve.

Ooh, and once while climbing up to the Mercy Hospital roof, we saw a dead Tank hanging in the corner of the stairwell. It was probably a glitch or something, didn't seem to be attached to anything prominent, but it was kinda spooky nonetheless.

And I still can't believe this:

Oh, and did anybody notice the piece of graffiti in the last safe room of No Mercy which reads, "NO ZOMBIE IS SAFE FROM CHICAGO TED"?

That's a joke from an article written by Erik Wolpaw (who now writes for Valve) and Seanbaby (of EGM's the Rest of the Crap fame) several years ago.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/lorenjlemos/chicagoted.jpg
 
From: Loreo is a red-blooded American idiot
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 12:30 PM
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RandallFlagg said:

Are you making fun of diabetics?

I wasn't, but I am now.

Hahaha, they can't have caramels. 
From: aaron
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 12:46 PM
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Loreo said:

Ok, the defense against the horde on top of Mercy Hospital

Truth. That was so fucking awesome. 
From: qyv is a magic man
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 1:06 PM
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muppet said:

is there a story, or is it mainly for multiplayer?

also, posting system requirements:


The game has 2 modes, Campaign and Deathmatch.

Campaign is divided up into 4 chapters or "movies", each one with multiple stages. You can play through them single player and your 3 buddies will be AI controlled, or go online and the other players will be humans. There is a lot of randomization in this part of the game and multiple paths to get to your goal... for example you can sneak around behind and through buildings or just run down the main street guns blazing. The point is, there's a bit more replayability to this game as your experience with each chapter/level will not be exactly the same on subsequent plays, especially with different humans playing with you.

Deathmatch I have not played personally but I understand it's your average team vs team type of thing with humans vs zombies, humans can becoem zombies somehow and vice versa...

right now I'm just having a blast playing through the campaigns, I'll get to deathmatch later. I completed the first movie last night with Cerr from the Fazed group on Advanced, I'll be online tonight probably around 1930 eastern time and would love to get some folks up to play through chapter 2. 
From: qyv is a magic man
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 1:11 PM
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oh and the defense on top of the hospital to end Movie 1 is not that hard... everybody load up on molotovs before you use the radio and then retreat back into the stairwell behind the minigun... 2 upstairs and 2 downstairs. close the doors and shoot holes through so you can see and shoot through them. basically you just stand there mowing down all the zombies which can't even get to you if you don't let them destroy the door.. my team positioned 1 assault rifle and 1 shotgun at each door and they never even got close and we were on Advanced.

There is a break in the horde when the Tanks show up. When you hear him, bust out of the stairwell and one person man the minigun while someone else lights him up with a molotov. The minigun can also tear him up while he's on fire but be careful he might come after you. I don't know how it is on Normal, but on Advanced (or expert) there are multiple waves of horde and tanks, so as soon as the tank dies everybody needs to book it back to the stairwell. lather, rinse repeat for each wave of horde/tank until the choppa shows up. 
From: Major Camel serious mammal
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 1:16 PM
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I am so fucking playing this tonight. 
From: Loreo is a red-blooded American idiot
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 1:24 PM
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Hmm, clever, qyv.

We kept sticking it out on top of the roof above the minigun, shotguns for the ones climbing up, assault and hunting rifle for the ones far away. 'Course, when the Tank got up there, he'd smash away, and the whole plan got pulled apart if somebody got yanked off the roof by a Smoker. After three tries on Advanced, we got one person rescued. D: 
From: MrPink - this is a cry for help
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 1:43 PM
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Having played only the demo on the PC I will say this: if you play it on anything below advanced you will not be challenged. On normal my group would regularly reach the end of the campaign without suffering a single incapacitation. We would end up just dicking around at the end trying to trigger another wave of zombies before closing the safe-room door.

On advanced things seem to be much more well balanced and well paced. That to me is the perfect setting for playing with strangers.

On expert people need to stick together -- its the way the game was meant to be played. If youre playing on expert with someone who is an asshole (ie runs ahead, dicks around, shoots the witch etc) you wont win. Even if everyone plays well you will suffer multiple incapacitations. This is by far the most rewarding way to play. 
From: Loreo is a red-blooded American idiot
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 1:59 PM
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Yeah, tried Death Toll on Expert with strangers who just ran straight ahead from the spawn, shooting away.

We got maybe 50 yards from the spawn before dying. 
From: KGBsuperspy puts the ass in assault
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 2:16 PM
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This has sparked my interest, I'll read up on it more. 
From: birdbrain - dinosaurbitch swam
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 2:26 PM
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I really really want this game. 
From: Dirty penny keeps his word like monkeys keep their poop in their hands.
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 2:31 PM
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I hadn't really looked into the game much. In fact, up until a few weeks ago I refused to look at it simply because of the seemingly annoying way they spelled the title. Left *4* Dead? Come on, don't use numbers instead of letters. Then I figured out the 4 was for the 4 player aspect. 'Aha' I said aloud. Now, I don't really enjoy playing games that make me cry myself to sleep and crap my pants, but I do really like team-based games. So I'm kind of stuck here, I wish they left the demo up for longer. I found out about it when I went to my parents house to get my wisdom teeth out. When I return back to my apt, the demo comes down. Wtf? Plus, with TF2 and WotLK out I don't really need another game right now. But it does look like a good time. So I need some coaxing, but I'm close to caving. 
From: volt does not aim with sticks
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 3:02 PM
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I still don't know if I'm going to bite even if there are three other people that want to buy the game. Pretty sure the zombapocalypse loses to CoDWaW.

To answer a question I got via PM,
One of the four has to buy the four-pack
and then gift it to the three other people
and trust that the other three people pay up.

Of course this is Fazed and I'm sure we'll hold each other accountable (and probably only take in user names that we know) so it should be a safe investment.

To be able to gift games on Steam you have to be friends with the person beforehand. You can end the friendship afterward if you'd like. 
From: qyv is a magic man
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 3:23 PM
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Loreo said:

Hmm, clever, qyv.
and the whole plan got pulled apart if somebody got yanked off the roof by a Smoker. After three tries on Advanced, we got one person rescued. D:


That happened to my crew the first time or two, we kept getting yanked off by smokers and hunters once that happens in the middle of a horde you're toast. With the stairwell method sometimes a smoker will grab you through the hole in the door BUT he can't drag you THROUGH the door so you're still safe. The other person just steps up and rescues you. I didn't realize at first you can rescue someone trapped by a smoker both by killing the smoker OR just grabbing the person with your action key, which works great in the stairwell. Anyway I talked them into my stairwell plan and it worked like a charm until the last Tank, we missed with the last 2 molotovs so I shot the Tank to get him after me and ran through the fire. I died cuz I was almost dead anyway but he caught on fire and died too, and the 3 other guys made it through the final rush. I got a kick at the end of the credits when it says "in memory of" and lists anybody who didn't make to chopper.

MrPink said:

Having played only the demo on the PC I will say this: if you play it on anything below advanced you will not be challenged.
On advanced things seem to be much more well balanced and well paced. That to me is the perfect setting for playing with strangers.
On expert people need to stick together -- its the way the game was meant to be played... This is by far the most rewarding way to play.


totally agree man! join us tonight I'd love to try the 2nd episode on Expert.

How exactly does the server system work? Other than the demo which I just played with random people I only played the 1 game last night, and I found that server because Cerr was on it and I used the Steam Friend browser. Say a couple of us meet up and want to play.. do we just go find an empty server and set up a lobby on it with whatever settings we want? Are servers like.. open.. like that? 
From: qyv is a magic man
 
Date: 11/19/08 @ 3:24 PM
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volt said:

To be able to gift games on Steam you have to be friends with the person beforehand.


This may seem like a silly question but I've never really used it before.. how do you friend someone via steam? The only way I could see people was by viewing the Fazed group and everyone's status but I couldn't figure out how to add a friend 
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