The current definition of "serial killer", I believe, is three or more murders over a period exceeding thirty days.
So you mean to tell me that you honestly believe that, of the set comprised by persons who have been proven to meet that criterion,
Approximately nine out of ten are citizens of one country (that has only recently grown to account for about 5% of the global population) over the past two hundred and thirty years.
Regardless of the source, do you really find that reasonable? 

See, anyone could have said anything, but rabbs lays it down. It's over. 

What has happened in the last 2 days, in Fort Worth and Orlando, is not a serial killer.

What is the term for a person who enters a occupied facility and starts shooting people? 

Player 1 

The defendant 

What is the term for a person who enters a occupied facility and starts shooting people?

Spree killer, I think, but that usually has to do with someone moving from place to place.
I guess it's not really much of a spree.
Like, you wouldn't call it a shopping spree if your spouse went to one store and blew a bunch of money.
But it's probably the closest. 

What is the term for a person who enters a occupied facility and starts shooting people?

Fucking crazy. 

Well, yeah, according to the APA. 

term for a person who enters a occupied facility and starts shooting people

"Berserker" 

SwimFan said:

What has happened in the last 2 days, in Fort Worth and Orlando, is not a serial killer.

What is the term for a person who enters a occupied facility and starts shooting people?

SwimFan w/Gun 

Someone who thinks they don't have much to live for.
And blames the wrong people.
What do we do about that? 

wantonly lay blame? 

It's not that he blames them it's that he shoots them 

It's not that he blames them it's that he shoots them

But why does he shoot them
Its not for financial gain
He doesn't think he'll escape and never be caught
why does he do it?

because he feels there is no other choice? 

fuggifino
some assholes are just losing it lately 

maybe there is something different lately
different than before 

some people get fed the fuck up. a person feeling they are out of other options is nothing new 

SwimFan said:

What has happened in the last 2 days, in Fort Worth and Orlando, is not a serial killer.

What is the term for a person who enters a occupied facility and starts shooting people?

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, i might be wrong but w/e
Mass murderer.

serial killers are specific in their targets(i.e. whores or blondes or old people or children)

mass murderers kill indiscriminately 

And I'm sure you have an opinion as to what it is that's different, don't you, Swimmy?

Let me guess... It's the Republicans' fault? 

spree killers really aren't serial killers. Serial killers have a style, a victim profile, and take the effort to avoid capture. Spree killers like in Ft. Worth and Orlando don't have that, they just snap, for whatever reason, and rampage.

Harris and Klebold were spree killers, BTK was a serial killer. 

Brazil is impressive in its numbers per serial killer. 

Play soccer, beach party, kill people.
Makes sense to me. 

serial killers are specific in their targets(i.e. whores or blondes or old people or children)

mass murderers kill indiscriminately

No.
Serial killers are defined as stated above.
Mass murderers kill huge numbers of people either in one act or in a contiguous campaign.
Spree killers are those who kill more than one person in one stint or continued effort.

Regardless of what SwimFan seems to be hinting at,
The fact is that spree killers, perhaps due to the same cause as that responsible for their tragic lapses from social norms,
Do not seem to have the common decency to crop up at regular intervals.
Therefore sometimes there will be times where several incidents will occur in quick succession.
It's not an acceleration or increase in frequency.
There have always been these sorts of incidents.
Any number of explanations can be found, some of them rather reliable, like the proportion of males aged 18-35 in a given population.
What has been on a genuine increase is media coverage and the effect of the echo chamber that is the internet (as the proportion of the population that participates regularly continues to grow).

Anyway.
Any more sad news? 

André Cunanon was a classic spree killer.

The 93% thing is in no way gospel. Like I said, I saw it on cable news (non-FOX). If their stats on killers is anything like their science reporting, that figure can mean almost anything.

The kind of people who snap and go on a killing spree:
A combination of genetics/biology, formative experiences, current situation/stressors.
I've always felt that most people are capable of going off if the cozmic tumblers fall wrong for them,
and all the wrong things lining up.
Yeah, I think most people are at some point. 

males aged 18-35 in a given population.

Damn!!! I'm to old! 

I'm still in range! 

***WHEW*** 

hm... I'm runnin' outta time... 

Well, seriously, you ever wonder why there seems to have been a spike in the number and frequency of sensational murders during the '70s and into the '80s?
A sound explanation is that about twenty years earlier, a buttload of baby boys were born.

But now we're just getting into old news, which is not what this thread is about. 

rabbiwanna said:

Well, seriously, you ever wonder why there seems to have been a spike in the number and frequency of sensational murders during the '70s and into the '80s?
A sound explanation is that about twenty years earlier, a buttload of baby boys were born.

Psh. Who needs sound explanations when you can blame it on drugs? 

YEAH, LOTS OF BABY BOYS SHOOT PEOPLE ALL THE TIME THAT MAKES SENSE 

I've been staring at that post for a two minutes and I honestly can't think of a good answer. 

CBSNews.com said:

VW van stolen 35 years ago is recovered

SPOKANE, Wash. - A Volkswagen van stolen 35 years ago in Washington state has been found in a shipping container at the Los Angeles/Long Beach seaport.

Customs agents found the 1965 van on Oct. 19 when they opened a shipping container bound for the Netherlands, The Spokesman-Review newspaper reported. They ran the vehicle identification number and discovered it was listed as stolen.
...
The van now legally belongs to Allstate Insurance Co., which paid off the original owner's theft claim back in 1974. The Highway Patrol turned over the van to Allstate this week.

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/ap/9057be85-2df2-491e-897e-53187f168868.hmedium.jpg

 

Syntax Error said:

And I'm sure you have an opinion as to what it is that's different, don't you, Swimmy? Let me guess... It's the Republicans' fault?

The Demos are only less repulsive than the Republicans. Party to neither.

Therefore sometimes there will be times where several incidents will occur in quick succession. It's not an acceleration or increase in frequency.

So you're saying that there's no increase except for expected by population growth?

There have always been these sorts of incidents.

Isn't there more in US than anywhere else per capita?

Any number of explanations can be found, some of them rather reliable, like the proportion of males aged 18-35 in a given population.

Isn't there more in US for this age group than anywhere else per capita?

What has been on a genuine increase is media coverage and the effect of the echo chamber that is the internet (as the proportion of the population that participates regularly continues to grow).

People are copycatting because they see the coverage and are media whores with a death wish?

Maybe because we live with so many lies and fear tactics that some people are not coping.
And as these feeling grows so will these incidents.
We really should study these 'Spree Killers' that survive and try to fine out,
or live in denial, or find out and not tell the proletariat. 

Fort Hood first responders remained calm amid chaos

Isn't it odd that one of the first rumors is that due to the number of dead and wounded and assailant's weapons some of it had to be friendly fire
and then a headline denial
never believe the news until the first denial? 

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/ap/9057be85-2df2-491e-897e-53187f168868.hmedium.jpg

My dad still has this same Microbus, it sits in the garage. 

What is the term for a person who enters a occupied facility and starts shooting people?

Elitist? 

The only thing I wonder about the Fort Hood thing is why did people let him reload? Or did the guy position himself in such a place he'd have at least 1 reload. 

Che1964 said:

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/ap/9057be85-2df2-491e-897e-53187f168868.hmedium.jpg

My dad still has this same Microbus, it sits in the garage.

Reminds me of the Turtle van 

sanka said:

The only thing I wonder about the Fort Hood thing is why did people let him reload? Or did the guy position himself in such a place he'd have at least 1 reload.

you're right, if he didn't have cover to reload then how did he do it w 2 pistols
I redirect you to an earlier psot.

"Fort Hood first responders remained calm amid chaos"
Isn't it odd that one of the first rumors is that due to the number of dead and wounded and assailant's weapons some of it had to be friendly fire
and then a headline denial
never believe the news until the first denial?

 

Just found the jack and coke from mexico with real sugar
time to thia won on.
asain gf 4give me 

I'm assuming he was in a covered position. If anyone, soldiers, would have been able to take him out without a reload. Obviously he himself was a soldier, so he may have reloaded strategically. I just don't know. 

Maybe he had infinite ammo, but forgot the cheat for invincibility. 

Hutchison said she was told that the soldiers at the readiness facility "were filling out paper processing to go to Iraq or Afghanistan," according to CNN affiliate KXAN in Austin, Texas.

Many stayed to help the wounded at a scene most would have fled, falling back on their military and medical training. They worked furiously to save lives after Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan fired more than 100 rounds into a room where hundreds of unarmed soldiers were lined up for vaccines and eye tests. He had created a battle scene worse than most had witnessed in Iraq, killing 13 and wounding 30.

i doubt the soldiers were armed to fill out paperwork.

a .45 acp can hold up to 14+1 rounds with a hi capacity magazine
if he had 2, then he could have 30 shots without reloading.
it is not very time consuming to eject a spent magazine and slap a new one in, especially if you have any kind of training

if he was using a ar-15 or a m4, well there are some drum magazines for those that can hold around 100 rounds or so (i'm sure they have a military equivalent for a m-16, my brother is the gun nut in the family so idk)

considering he was a major and in the military i have no doubt he had access to things that aren't available to the general public

for all anybody knows he could have been using a chain gun
the only gun that was mentioned anywhere in the media was the police officer who took him down, and she was using a berretta 9mm 

for all anybody knows he could have been using a chain gun

Sounds more like a plasma rifle to me. 

aZZaZeLo said:

Sounds more like a plasma rifle to me.

Chainsaw 

What about a positronic laser destructo-blaster with insta-kill turlubulinium ammo?

I mean, if we are going to make crazy speculation, why not go whole hog? 

I heard he had a pair of side arms and at least one was a 7,5mm 

My sewer bill just went from $15/mth to $18.50/mth. Not a terrible, real-dollar hike, but another 20%+ hike from one of my "cheap" utility bills. This one didn't come with an explanation, though.

Pisses me right the hell off either way. My bill had been $15/mth with them for almost 3 years. Why wasn't it gradually growing over that time??? 

annnnnnd that was supposed to be in the econ thread