From: survival has the lightning, and intends to use it
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 9:25 PM
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With intercept, and cleave and more armor and yes a reskin. 
From: Hobo Willie hopes there isn't a Rapiest Ape.
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 9:26 PM
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If you're gonna play Horde Warrior, my opinion is it should be a Tauren for the health buff and War Stomp (2 sec stun). I would also choose Orc due to Blood Fury, but I do like Will of the Forsaken and Cannabalize.

Of course my character is a 60 Troll Mage, which I wish dearly had been an Undead Mage. Beserking blows.

I'm on Bonechewer, by the way. 
From: b_sides
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 9:34 PM
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With intercept, and cleave and more armor and yes a reskin.


So instead of being a threat in pvp like it was before its just a minor annoyance.

In the last 2 patches they made our CC ineffective, reduced our damage midigation and have reduced our DPS. 
From: baba give item
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 9:39 PM
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nurf 'locks. 
From: BrianMD71
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 10:08 PM
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i don't feel so weird then, about respeccing mine down the destruction tree. the 1200+ crits and extended range are nice. 
From: b_sides
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 10:09 PM
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yeah, affliction spec you might kill them but they will most likely kill you first, and demonology just lost most of its benefits. 
From: BrianMD71
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 10:12 PM
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in pvp at least, i've been doing a lot more killing with the destro spec. especially kill shots. 
From: survival has the lightning, and intends to use it
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 10:40 PM
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You guys do know that Felguards + the black book were getting upwards of 1500 crits on cloth before they patched things right? That's the equivalent of a summonable warrior with a grand marshal 2 hander. No one should have that as a talent and still maintain their nuke / dot / fear capabilities.

I've yet to see a warlock complain about pvp, while keeping a straight face. And soul link + felguard > soul link + succubus. So QQ. 
From: BrianMD71
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 10:42 PM
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what would always end up happening with me - my felguard would start beating on someone, and before i knew it someone else would be pounding me in the back of the head. before i could get a howl or fear off, i'd be dead. dead warlock = doesn't matter how good the felguard is 
From: survival has the lightning, and intends to use it
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 10:45 PM
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intercept the dude on you to stun him and let you get that fear off. Just a thought :P 
From: BrianMD71
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 10:49 PM
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i'll try that, just half the time i'm dead before i can even hit the button. 
From: b_sides
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 10:51 PM
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And soul link + felguard > soul link + succubus. So QQ.


Yeah soul link got dropped this patch, I havent had a fear last more than 5 seconds since the patch and you cant get a nuke off when someone is beating on you.

But druids get an iwin button against casters with those treants. 
From: seven is as seven does
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 11:31 PM
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speaking of IWIN button...
any hunters go full beast mastery?

omg wtfpwn casters.
until they standardize the pet attack speed.. my ZG Bat has a .83 base attack speed with full BM
and my base attack speed is 1.3 with Grand Marshals Bullseye.
let quick shots proc and hit rapid fire, my attack speed drops to .81.

just try and get a cast off, i dare you. 
From: dr_satan is a fan of food sold on sticks
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 11:36 PM
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I thought they did standardize it -
where every pet's atk speed is 2.00 regardless. 
From: Hobo Willie hopes there isn't a Rapiest Ape.
 
Date: 1/9/07 @ 11:53 PM
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seven said:

just try and get a cast off, i dare you.


Arcane Missiles with 100% resist interrupt FTW! I have yet to have a problem with a hunter who doesn't have silencing shot. 
From: seven is as seven does
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 1:39 AM
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I thought they did standardize it -
where every pet's atk speed is 2.00 regardless.


not yet.. my bat still has a .83 attack speed.

Arcane Missiles with 100% resist interrupt FTW! I have yet to have a problem with a hunter who doesn't have silencing shot.


fully enraged? both me and my pet are un crowd controllable.. pouring over 500DPS into your face for 15 seconds straight.

I have yet to find a priest/mage/warlock that stays up faced with that. 
From: dr_satan is a fan of food sold on sticks
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 1:44 AM
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with all the stuff that has a chance of not working on things over 60, I'm thinking about dropping mining/gob eng and going herbalism/alchemy. 
From: seven is as seven does
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 2:01 AM
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enchanting and gnomish eng here...
ive been thinking about dropping the engineering..
but i love my ultrasafe transporter.
think ill need to use it in BC? 
From: survival has the lightning, and intends to use it
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 2:08 AM
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I have yet to find a priest/mage/warlock that stays up faced with that.


I have yet to lose to a hunter with anything less than full tier 2.5 on my priest, crits are like free heals for me :D 
From: dr_satan is a fan of food sold on sticks
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 2:09 AM
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dunno.
my warr was herb/alchem, and it made soloing very easy.

I already can heal, but I'd like all the other benefits I could get from potions. 
From: Wander is the King of the Moon
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 2:09 AM
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b_sides said:

So instead of being a threat in pvp like it was before its just a minor annoyance.

In the last 2 patches they made our CC ineffective, reduced our damage midigation and have reduced our DPS.


Intercept used properly on a Warlock is far better than Seduce. Heck, it's better than Intercept for Warriors, used properly. 
From: seven is as seven does
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 2:14 AM
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I have yet to lose to a hunter with anything less than full tier 2.5 on my priest, crits are like free heals for me :D


teir 2/epic PVP
PWshield if you want, but that shield drops aweful quickly.

1v1 i tear priests apart.. maybe im just not encountering priests who know what they are doing?

meh 
From: survival has the lightning, and intends to use it
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 2:18 AM
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Reflective shield is a guaranteed 600 damage back at you while I heal and I have 2700 armor buffed and I'm not retarded. BM hunters are a bitch though I will admit, but even then it isn't much of a problem, most casters don't realize hunters have a dead zone or forget how to CC. 
From: seven is as seven does
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 2:22 AM
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most casters don't realize hunters have a dead zone or forget how to CC.


even better.. go ahead and get in my dead zone..
most casters also don't realize that massive axe on my side is edge of chaos until my raptor strike crits them for 650. Catch me with my cooldowns ready, and you are done for. i cant be CC'd while enraged. my dps pet does 180DPS fully enraged.

... and often times, if a warrior or rogue comes at me, i just drop a frost trap and kite them around while my animal embarrasses the hell out of them. 
From: geodave Damn Nelson Mandela you smell so good! Also, fuck you.
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 3:35 AM
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Am I actually witnessing Warcraft trash talk? 
From: seven is as seven does
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 3:47 AM
126
woops
my bad 
From: JMZ knows that Hotlinking ain't just a city in China
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 5:14 AM
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b_sides said:

You mean the BC expansion? the 16th.


No...i mean like something new & better that requires dual processors.

WoW was fun, but WORLD OF WARCRAFT II will be AWESOME - b/c they have sooo much $$ for development.

I know there's some speculation / previews out there - i hope someone posts them soon.

=D 
From: DomJudex puts the rope into proper
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 2:41 PM
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I think I'm going to make a Draenei paladin when I get the expansion. 
From: Wander is the King of the Moon
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 2:52 PM
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even better.. go ahead and get in my dead zone..
most casters also don't realize that massive axe on my side is edge of chaos until my raptor strike crits them for 650.


Your "Dead Zone" is further than melee range and closer than bow range - i.e., you can't raptor strike. You can use Scatter Shot, if specced for it, or Intimidation via your pet, since you're Beast Mastery spec, but unless your Beast Within cooldown is ready, your dead zone is a pretty safe place to be. 
From: Wander is the King of the Moon
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 2:52 PM
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I think I'm going to make a Draenei paladin when I get the expansion.


Same. I was going to call him Zoidberg but someone took that name already. 
From: strife
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 3:28 PM
131
I have bubbledin and homodin saved for my BE Death Knights or whatever the horde version is called. 
From: D rock 007 thinks boobs are like bird feathers
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 3:30 PM
132
They're called Paladins. 
From: strife
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 3:33 PM
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drock007 said:

They're called Paladins.


Not for horde. http://www.wowwiki.com/Blood_Knight
The Blood Knights are the Horde version of Paladins (Blood Elf only), to be introduced in the expansion, the Burning Crusade. They are nearly identical in game mechanics, though Blizzard has stated that they intend there to be "flavor differences." What these differences are, at this point, are only speculation, but some have suggested Paladin racial abilities along the same lines of Priest racial abilities. (One Horde-specific paladin ability, the Seal of Blood, is already confirmed.) The Blood Knight will also have a more evil-flavored mount than their Paladin cousins, according to Blizzard. [1]
 
From: ScaTrick is being glib about hipflipping
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 3:40 PM
134
No. They're still Paladins.

character creation screen, and all your in game content says paladins.

The Blood Knight is like Knight of the Silver Hand. Just a title. 
From: strife
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 3:47 PM
135
Oh. Lame. 
From: Fox Jeffworthy received a cease and desist from Jeff, but is suspicious of "Aterny Lawrence Cableguy"
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 3:49 PM
136
Little known fact: "Paladin" is where we get the word "Pal" 
From: ScaTrick is being glib about hipflipping
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 3:49 PM
137
BUT

Belfs can't be warriors. SO Pally is as "warrior" as they get.

which is cool. 
From: D rock 007 thinks boobs are like bird feathers
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 3:49 PM
138
What exactly is the flavor of evil? Is it kinda like pistachio nuts? 
From: Fox Jeffworthy received a cease and desist from Jeff, but is suspicious of "Aterny Lawrence Cableguy"
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 3:50 PM
139
Black Licorice 
From: geodave Damn Nelson Mandela you smell so good! Also, fuck you.
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 3:50 PM
140
Black licorice is delicioux and anybody who disagrees can burn in a firey hellish wasteland. 
From: D rock 007 thinks boobs are like bird feathers
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 3:51 PM
141
So am I evil if I like black licorice? 
From: coleslaw can resist everything except temptation
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 4:09 PM
142
So am I evil if I like black licorice?


With enough Jagermeister shots, one becomes the Anti-Christ. 
From: D rock 007 thinks boobs are like bird feathers
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 4:11 PM
143
Especially if you drop the Jaeger shot in 6 ounces of energy drink and slam it all and immediately order another, and another... 
From: baba give item
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 4:16 PM
144
Belfs can't be warriors.

does anyone else think this kind of sucks? 
From: ScaTrick is being glib about hipflipping
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 4:23 PM
145
I like it. They're magic addicts, so they don't have the base strength to be warriors. 
From: baba give item
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 4:26 PM
146
but a gnome does?

anyways, it seems like a racial nerf to me for some reason.
is there a final word on their racial abilities?
i heard the AoE silence wasn't happening. 
From: ScaTrick is being glib about hipflipping
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 4:28 PM
147
Gnomes are kin to Dwarves, Dwarves are hardcore, and gnomes are small and wee and compact, and thus hardcore.

Belfs are thin and tall and weak. 
From: baba give item
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 4:30 PM
148
anywayZ
is there a final word on their racial abilities?

give me the science, beta lord. 
From: ScaTrick is being glib about hipflipping
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 4:31 PM
149
they suck magic, the AoE Silence I don't know offhand, as I've been Draying it up lately.

They're a Human Paladin, with much better magic ability, and the ability to suck mana out of other creatures to refill their own. 
From: PinksBlackJack
 
Date: 1/10/07 @ 4:35 PM
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No one "is prepared" for the fiftieth post in a thread.

I shall "intercept" it for you. 
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